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Posted By Robert Treuber,
Wednesday, October 28, 2015
Updated: Wednesday, October 28, 2015
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A delegation of the NYSLTA Title Insurance Section met with Nassau County Clerk O'Connell and her senior deputies on Monday October 26 at the County Office Building in Mineola, NY. A group of Xerox team members joined via phone conference.
The conversation was informative and businesslike.
As of this date, the Xerox team is projecting completion of implementation and internet access to the system by mid-November. Anyone who is familiar with complex systems such as this must acknowledge the potential for unforeseen delays. It is only reasonable to allow some flexibility to this target date.
The ACS system is currently in use in other NY counties and these can be found via uslandrecords.com and nylandrecords.com.
When the new system is fully launched, the Clerk intends to offer informational presentations and training sessions for her staff as well as public users of the system. The title industry must anticipate slightly longer task completion times while people become accustomed to the new system and different ways of searching and examining land records.
The cost for accessing the system and using different features have not yet been announced.
Clerk O'Connell has committed to ongoing meetings with the NYSLTA Land Records Committee on a quarterly basis.
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Posted By Frontier Abstract & Research Services,
Wednesday, October 21, 2015
Updated: Wednesday, October 21, 2015
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Nassau County Clerk’s Office: System Update – Three (3) Weeks Since “System Upgrade”
1. On any given day there are up to 100 searchers (examiners) using the Nassau County Clerk’s Office. Most are in the basement where the majority of the searching takes place.
2. There are 17 computer terminals available in the basement for one (1) hour use only. These 17 terminals are on the ”New System” (by Xerox) which contains data from January 1, 1992 to June 30, 2015.
3. Searchers must sign in to get a place in line for the next available terminal. Clerks monitor the terminal time use and move people out when their 1 hour expires.
4. Printing requests go to a queue where the clerk must print and paperclip everything. The clerk has run out of paper and then has to place a service call for a paper delivery delaying everyone.
5. Documents are missing from the new system (for example 2007, 2013) and more are being discovered. When recorded documents are identified as missing, the clerks are notified and they in turn will have the I.T. staff search the old system for them and transfer copies to the new system.
6. There are two (2) terminals (called A & B) available for use in the basement that access the “Old System”. They can only be used by an examiner for one half (½) hour. The effective date for that data system is currently 10/1/2015.
7. There are another two (2) terminals working on the “Old System” upstairs on the first floor. They have a 15 minute time limit.
8. As of 10/20/2015 there is no word on when the “New Online System” will be ready for use. No one has seen it yet, nor do they know the costs surrounding its use.
9. The clerk is placing blame for the problem on the county manager for not allowing greater spending on a new system (rumored to be $30K). The county manager is blaming the clerk and Xerox for all the delays.
10. The old “Examiner Room” is now full of disconnected terminals that are no longer being used.
11. “It is What It Is” so searchers/Examiners are all on a level playing field, albeit challenging and wrought with pitfalls. Each must manages the back and forth between new and old systems, scheduling terminal time, all while negotiating the print queue and waiting, waiting, waiting.
12. E-recordings are up and working and I believe people can also walk on papers if necessary (although it is frowned upon).
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Posted By Robert Treuber,
Tuesday, October 20, 2015
Updated: Tuesday, October 20, 2015
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We have made every effort to treat the recent problems in Nassau County fairly and at times that has included some criticism of County Clerk O'Connell.
So we are very pleased to include here the copy of a letter from Clerk O'Connell to the Nassau County Legislature, in which she take issue with fee hikes in the proposed county budget.
As a trade association, our job is to advance the interests of the title insurance industry in NY State. It is our firm belief that we can best protect our business by protecting the real estate consumer - our ultimate customer.
In the attached letter, Clerk O'Connell makes a compelling argument AGAINST the real estate fee increases. We align with this position and we join Clerk O'Connell in opposing the fees in the proposed budget.
(Its a very good letter - please read it).
Attached Files:
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Posted By Robert Treuber,
Thursday, October 15, 2015
Updated: Thursday, October 15, 2015
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The problems continue with the County Clerk's computer system in Nassau County.
The uncertainty and disruption during this change-over has not always brought out the best in any of us.
I have no doubt that this situation was not what County Clerk O'Connell or her staff ever wanted.
There will be days when progress is two steps forward and one step back - get used to it. That is the 21st Century world of software enabled commerce.
We will continue to monitor and report on this situation as it resolves and we look forward to improved channels of communication with Clerk O'Connell on a regular basis.
Members are encouraged to comment and non-members may email comment to me for review and posting.
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Posted By Robert Treuber,
Tuesday, October 6, 2015
Updated: Tuesday, October 6, 2015
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I am very pleased to report that County Clerk Maureen O'Connell called me a few minutes ago.
No doubt she is a very busy woman these days and her taking time to call is greatly appreciated.
She assured me the new system is being used by many counties and it is a proven system, and it is going to be great.
She said the County is running "dual system" computers so people can access both systems.
I asked her to make announcements about the status of the switch-over, her plans for completing and progress on the plans.
If I understood her correctly, she said that is not necessary because she and her staff are working "side by side" with the people there and they are communicating with the people on site. I respectfully disagreed and suggested that a formal announcement would prevent her information being distorted as it moved from mouth-to-ear to mouth-to ear.
She said she wasn't going to "run things by me". I clarified I was offering to help distribute her message. Again - shje said its not necessary.
She again insisted things are OK, the change over is happening and there will be training classes soon, maybe even next week.
Clerk O'Connell says people just have to stay calm and be positive.
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Posted By Robert Treuber,
Tuesday, October 6, 2015
Updated: Tuesday, October 6, 2015
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Here is what you will not find in Nassau County this morning:
- Lis pendens are not indexed in the new system
- All three major eRecording companies are no longer accepting documents for Nassau County
- You won't find a County Clerk (or her staff)
I called the Clerk a few minutes ago. Understandably she and her entire staff are in a meeting. One hopes they are working to address these issues.
Members have called to say additional computers have been connect to the old system and there are computers running both systems to enable checking the completeness of the recorded data.
The eRecordng companies say they will resume eRecording in Nassau AFTER they have completed their independent testing of the system integrity.
It would be wrong to say Clerk O'Connell and her staff are doing nothing. I cannot believe they are happy about this and I am certain they want things fixed and running smoothly.
In my message, I requested additional staff be put on to accept walk-in recordings and I urged them to communicate the status on a regular basis. That would help diminish the fear and concern borne of uncertainty.
To Members - please note the Title Section is meeting to consider remedies. I will report on the progress of that initiative as best as I am able.
Members can add comments. Non-members can email comments for posting to rgt@nyslta.org AND rcapone@nyslta.org.
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Posted By Robert Treuber,
Saturday, October 3, 2015
Updated: Saturday, October 3, 2015
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A senior staff member of Nassau County Clerk O'Connell called at 9 AM Saturday morning to respond to the previous blog posted here on Friday.
As this was a weekend phone call - I cannot get the following report fact-checked by the Clerk's office until next week.
This report is from my notes of this morning's phone call. Any errors or misstatements will be corrected as soon as we are advised of them.
I explained my previous reports came from Examiners on site and were corroborated by Agents and an Direct operations Underwriter.
Well - it looks like the tech team from Xerox is not happy with us and they feel disparaged by the things said about the situation in Nassau county. A blind man can see we are not popular with the Nassau County Clerk.
Here is what I learned on this morning's phone call:
1 - The new system (Xerox) is fully functional and the index can be accessed without charge from a bank of 20 computers on-site. This went online at 11 AM Thursday
2 - The data in the Xerox system (1992-2015) is correct and reliable. He says there is no data gap July 1- Sept 30, 2015. Any problem with gaps is due to training issues.
3 - The Xerox system can print specific pages. However he does admit that users must pay $2/page to view or download and unless one views an entire document, you can't know what page you want to print.
4 - A training packet was distributed last Thursday. A copy will be sent to me next week.
5 - 10 computers are available for public use to access the old system (Browntech). Three are connected to printers "behind the counter". The statutory fee they charge is 65-cents/page.
6 - The Browntech system required Examiners to purchase payment cards for printing. These cards will be obsolete in a matter of days or weeks.
7 - The bottleneck is being caused by Examiners who are trying to "deplete the value" on their old Browntech cards and the 'Examiners do not trust the data in the new system.
I was told Clerk O'Connell does not want to make any statement until everything is up and running smoothly. I explained that it is when things are NOT running smoothly that people need to have information and an official statement.
We disagreed on the better approach to communications and crisis management. (They deny there is a crisis.)
I explained that the LTA has tried for years to establish formal communications with the Clerk's office and we have always been rebuffed.
I reiterated our offer to assist the Nassau County Clerk in disseminating information to the industry and facilitating the use of the Clerk's services.
Great efforts have been taken to acknowledge that these reports are based on 2nd hand information and we have made frequent requests to the Clerk's Office for comment.
I appreciate the diligence of the gentleman who took personal time away from his family to call me. Maybe there is hope we can build some bridges.
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Posted By Robert Treuber,
Friday, October 2, 2015
Updated: Friday, October 2, 2015
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On September 30, the Nassau County Clerk’s computerized real property index was scheduled for an upgrade and transition to an online system. The change-over experienced massive failure, resulting in the disruption of examining records.
The Nassau County Clerk has not responded to multiple calls and emails requesting information and comment, as of 3:45 PM Oct 2, 2015.
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Certain Underwriters have notified their agents that all closing transactions must be cleared by the legal department until further notice.
The following report is compiled from verbal accounts provided by examiners and agents familiar with the situation.
THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION HAS NOT BEEN INDEPENDENTLY VERIFIED BY NYSLTA.
As part of the conversion, eight computers were removed from the public computer bank.
On Thursday Oct 1 , three print-capable computers were available to the public to access the old system. Examiners were restricted to a 15 minute session.
On Friday, October 2, four more computers were added to view the old system but these newly added machines were not connected to printers.
Access to the old system is to be maintained until the new system is fully functional.
The Clerk has announced no plans to computerize records prior to 1992.
The new system is designed to cover 1992-current date. It was discovered that data from July 1 – September 30, 2015 was not found. On-site techs stated this should be fixed by next week.
The new system was also found to have gaps and omissions on the data prior to July 1, 2015, making this system unreliable.
Examiners in Mineola reported the technicians were helpful and professional, talking to Examiners and taking note of problems.
When the new system is operational it will be accessed online without a fee, however it will provide recording information such as page count and dates. To get document images, users download the document in its entirely at the rate of $2/page.
This report will be updated as information is available.
NOTE – IF YOU HAVE FIRST HAND INFORMATION ABOUT THE SITUATION IN MINEOLA, PLEASE POST A COMMENT.
COMMENTS SHOULD HAVE A BASIS IN FACT AND NOT DISPARAGE ANY INDIVIDUAL OR ORGANIZATION.
KEEP IT CLASSY.
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Posted By Robert Treuber,
Thursday, October 1, 2015
Updated: Thursday, October 1, 2015
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Posted: 2 PM October 1, 2015
The situation at the Nassau County Clerk's Office is dire.
A new computer system for records 1992 - present was scheduled to go live today and there are widespread failures.
The following information is NOT CONFIRMED but comes from trusted sources.
Three computers dedicated to the legacy system are not operating. These are intended to serve the pre-1992 era.
Contins are most immediately impacted.
Examiners cannot access the most recent 90 days of data (7/1 - 9/30/2015).
Examiners are limited to 1 hour sessions on in-house computer
There are delays in recordings - unclear if this is a technology or training issue.
The address to the new online system has not been released.
There are only 2 copiers available onsite, copier costs are now 65-cents/page and there is a long line waiting to use the 2 machines.
Another update is planned for Monday October 5th.
There is no statement from the Clerk when the systems will be functioning again.
Calls are coming into NYSLTA seeking action and response.
I have contacted the Communications Director at the County Executive's Office and left messages with the Assistant Clerk and the Counsel at the County Clerk's Office.
I looking to escalate to a superior authority, reporting back to Association frequently when more information is available.
Members are encouraged to comment with additional information, questions or concerns.
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